Battle between naked men and their complaining women

Battle between naked men and their complaining women

Titles

Battle between naked men and their complaining women

[CDA 2011]

The Silver Age

[Exhib. Cat. Kronach 1994, 350]

Painting on beech wood

Medium

Painting on beech wood

[Hoffmann, Cat. Weimar 1992, 37]

In this painting two distictive parties are depicted: three pairs are shown battling, each with a bearded and beardless man. In all cases the bearded man is armed with a club and stands victorious over his opponent who lies on the ground. Two of the fighting men have already been

In this painting two distictive parties are depicted: three pairs are shown battling, each with a bearded and beardless man. In all cases the bearded man is armed with a club and stands victorious over his opponent who lies on the ground. Two of the fighting men have already been defeated. The lament of the women and children, that frame the battle scene, can be read in their gestures and facial expressions.

[Kristin Knebel, in Exhib. Cat. Weimar 2015, No. 122]

Attribution
Lucas Cranach the Elder

Attribution

Lucas Cranach the Elder

[Exhib. Cat. Weimar 2015, 179] [Hoffmann, Cat. Weimar 1992, 37]

Production date
1527

Production date

1527

[dated]

Dimensions
Dimensions of support: 53 x 38.1 cm

Dimensions

  • Dimensions of support: 53 x 38.1 cm

  • [Hoffmann, Cat. Weimar 1992, 37]

Signature / Dating
Artist's insignia bottom, centre: winged serpent with elevated wings facing left and dated '1527'; in yellow paint

Signature / Dating

  • Artist's insignia bottom, centre: winged serpent with elevated wings facing left and dated '1527'; in yellow paint

  • [cda 2010]

Owner
Klassik Stiftung Weimar, Museums
Repository
Klassik Stiftung Weimar, Museums
Location
Weimar
CDA ID
DE_KSW_G398
FR (1978) Nr.
FR264
Persistent Link
https://lucascranach.org/en/DE_KSW_G398/

Provenance

  • 1871 in a private collection in Augsburg
  • acquired in 1890 from the collection of Freiherrn von Zwierlein, Würzburg

[Hoffmann, Cat. Weimar 1992, 37]

Exhibitions

Dresden 1899, no. 40 with Fig.
Berlin 1937, no. 65, Plate 62
Weimar, Wittenberg 1953, No. 32
Dresden 1971, no. 116 with Fig.
Weimar 1972, no. 27, Fig. p. 55
Basel 1974, Bd. 2, no. 498
Weimar 2015, no. 122

Literature

Reference on page Catalogue Number Figure / Plate
Exhib. Cat. Gotha, Kassel 2015 208
EditorJulia Carrasco, Justus Lange, Stiftung Schloss Friedenstein, Gotha, Benjamin D. Spira, Timo Trümper
TitleBild und Botschaft. Cranach im Dienst von Hof und Reformation, [Gotha, Herzogliches Museum; Kassel, Gemäldegalerie Alte Meister, Schloss Wilhelmshöhe]
Place of PublicationHeidelberg
Year of Publication2015
Exhib. Cat. Weimar 2015 166, 178, 179 122 122
EditorWolfgang Holler, Karin Kolb
TitleCranach in Weimar, [Weimar, Schiller-Museum, 3 April - 14 June 2015]
Place of PublicationDresden
Year of Publication2015
Foister 2003 123, 127
AuthorSusan Foister
TitleCranachs Mythologien. Quellen und Originalität
Publicationin Heinz Spielmann, Werner Schade, eds., Lucas Cranach. Glaube, Mythologie und Moderne, Exhib. Cat. Hamburg 2003
Place of PublicationOstfildern-Ruit
Year of Publication2003
Pages116-129
Sandner 1998 B 90
AuthorIngo Sandner
TitleCranach als Zeichner auf dem Malgrund
Publicationin Ingo Sandner, Wartburg-Stiftung Eisenach and Fachhochschule Köln, eds., Unsichtbare Meisterzeichnungen auf dem Malgrund. Cranach und seine Zeitgenossen, Exhib. Cat. Eisenach
Place of PublicationRegensburg
Year of Publication1998
Pages83-95
Exhib. Cat. Kronach 1994 350 174a
EditorClaus Grimm, Johannes Erichsen, Evamaria Brockhoff
TitleLucas Cranach. Ein Maler-Unternehmer aus Franken [Festung Rosenberg, Kronach 17.05 - 21.08.1994; Museum der Bildenden Künste, Leipzig 07.09 - 06.11.1994]
SeriesVeröffentlichungen zur bayerischen Geschichte und Kultur
Volume26
Place of PublicationAugsburg, Coburg
Year of Publication1994
Cat. Weimar 1992 37-39 No. 11
AuthorHelga Hoffmann
EditorKunstsammlungen zu Weimar
TitleKunstsammlungen zu Weimar. Die deutschen Gemälde des XVI. Jahrhunderts
Place of PublicationFulda
Year of Publication1992
Friedländer, Rosenberg 1979 122 No. 264 Fig. 264
AuthorMax J. Friedländer, Jakob Rosenberg
EditorG. Schwartz
TitleDie Gemälde von Lucas Cranach
Place of PublicationBasel, Boston, Stuttgart
Year of Publication1979
Exhib. Cat. Basel 1974/1976 599-600 498
AuthorDieter Koepplin, Tilman Falk
TitleLukas Cranach. Gemälde, Zeichnungen und Druckgraphik
Volume1, 2
Place of PublicationBasel, Stuttgart
Year of Publication1974
Link http://nbn-resolving.de/urn:nbn:de:bsz:16-diglit-104522
Koepplin 1974 B 173f. Fig. 2
AuthorDieter Koepplin
TitleUnsere Kunstdenkmäler
Volume25
Place of PublicationBern
Year of Publication1974
Schade 1974 70
AuthorWerner Schade
TitleDie Malerfamilie Cranach
Place of PublicationDresden
Year of Publication1974
Link http://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/schade1974
Daniel 1973 86f. Fig. 41
AuthorL. Daniel
TitleCranachs Kopie von Hieronymus Boschs Darstellung des Jüngsten Gerichts
Publicationin Lucas Cranach - Künstler und Gesellschaft
Place of PublicationWittenberg
Year of Publication1973
Exhib. Cat. Weimar 1972 B No. 33 Fig. p. 62
EditorSchlossmuseum Weimar
TitleLucas Cranach 1472-1553. Ein großer Maler in bewegter Zeit
Place of PublicationWeimar
Year of Publication1972
Quinger 1972 27-31 Fig.
AuthorH. Quinger
TitleLucas Cranach zum 500. Geburtstag. Bildbetrachtung seines Gemäldes 'Das silberne Zeitalter'
JournalWissenschaftliche Zeitschrift der Pädagogischen Hochschul. 'K. F. Wander' Dresden
Issue1/1972
Year of Publication1972
Pages27-31
Exhib. Cat. Dresden 1971 No. 116 Fig.
EditorStaatliche Kunstsammlungen Dresden
TitleDeutsche Kunst der Dürerzeit
Place of PublicationDresden
Year of Publication1971
Thöne 1965 Fig. p. 77
AuthorFriedrich Thöne
TitleLucas Cranach der Ältere
SeriesDie blauen Bücher
Place of PublicationKönigstein i. Taunus
Year of Publication1965
Ruhmer 1963 under Plate 34
AuthorEberhard Ruhmer
TitleCranach
Place of PublicationCologne
Year of Publication1963
Exhib. Cat. Weimar, Wittenberg 1953 No. 32
AuthorWalther Scheidig
EditorDeutsche Lucas Cranach Komitee
TitleLucas Cranach Ausstellung. Weimar und Wittenberg
Place of PublicationWeimar, Wittenberg
Year of Publication1953
Bernheimer 1952 119, 157, 208f. Fig. 29
AuthorR. Bernheimer
TitleWild Men in the Middle Ages
Place of PublicationCambridge Mass.
Year of Publication1952
Exhib. Cat. Berlin 1937 28, 29 065 Pl. 62
EditorStaatliche Museen, Berlin
TitleLucas Cranach d. Ä. und Lucas Cranach d. J. Gemälde, Zeichnungen, Graphik
Place of PublicationBerlin
Year of Publication1937
Friedländer, Rosenberg 1932 216
AuthorMax J. Friedländer, Jakob Rosenberg
TitleDie Gemälde von Lucas Cranach
Place of PublicationBerlin
Year of Publication1932
Link http://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/friedlaender1932
Glaser 1923 232
AuthorCurt Glaser
TitleLukas Cranach
Place of PublicationLeipzig
Year of Publication1923
Link http://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/glaser1923
Cat. Weimar 1913 No. 151
EditorWillibald Hermens
TitleKatalog des Groszherzoglichen Museums zu Weimar
Place of PublicationWeimar
Year of Publication1913
Cat. Weimar 1910 No. 144
Authorn. a.
TitleKatalog des Groszherzoglichen Museums zu Weimar
Place of PublicationWeimar
IssueSixth edition
Year of Publication1910
Gabelentz-Linsingen 1910 37 Plate
AuthorHans von der Gabelentz-Linsingen
TitleFührer durch das Großherzogliche Museum in Weimar
Place of PublicationWeimar
Year of Publication1910
Flechsig 1900 A 268f.
AuthorEduard Flechsig
TitleCranachstudien
Volume1
Place of PublicationLeipzig
Year of Publication1900
Link page/n5/mode/2up
Flechsig 1900 B Plate p. 94
AuthorEduard Flechsig
TitleTafelbilder Lucas Cranachs d. Ä. und seiner Werkstatt
Volume1, 2
Place of PublicationLeipzig
Year of Publication1900
Link http://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/flechsig1900tafeln
Woermann 1900 82 Fig. 33
AuthorKarl Woermann
TitleDie Dresdner Cranach-Ausstellung
JournalZeitschrift für bildende Kunst
IssueN.F. 11
Year of Publication1900
Exhib. Cat. Dresden 1899 No. 40 Fig.
EditorKarl Woermann
TitleDeutsche Kunstausstellung Dresden 1899. Abteilung Cranach-Ausstellung. Wissenschaftliches Verzeichnis der ausgestellten Werke
Place of PublicationDresden
Year of Publication1899
Link http://resolver.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/SBB00002A2400000000
Cat. Weimar 1894 32 No. 10
Authorn. a.
TitleKatalog des Groszherzoglichen Museums zu Weimar
Place of PublicationWeimar
Year of Publication1894
Lehfeldt 1894 407 Plate
AuthorPaul Lehfeldt
TitleBau- und Kunst-Denkmäler Thüringens
Volume1, 2
Place of PublicationJena
Year of Publication1894
Schuchardt 1871 130-131 2
AuthorChristian Schuchardt
TitleLucas Cranach des Aeltern Leben und Werke. Dritter Theil
Place of PublicationLeipzig
Year of Publication1871
Link http://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/schuchardt1871bd3
Schuchardt 1851 C 420
AuthorChristian Schuchardt
TitleLucas Cranach des Aeltern Leben und Werke. Zweiter Theil
Place of PublicationLeipzig
Year of Publication1851
Link http://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/schuchardt1851bd2
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Technical studies

06.10.2014Technical examination / Scientific analysis

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Equipment: ERESCO 42 MF 4 from the company GE.

Scanner: CRxFlex.

Parameter: 50 KV, 8mA, 20 seconds

Distance from object: 3m

see pdf: [Report, HfBK Dresden, 06.10.2014]

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  • created by I. Mohrmann

04. 2010Technical examination / Scientific analysis

  • Infrared reflectography
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Underdrawing

DESCRIPTION

Tools/Materials:

- fluid medium, pointed brush

Type/Ductus:

- freehand underdrawing

- delicate, fine lines, both long and short

Function:

- binding for the final painted version; lines delineate contours and describe the main features within forms; no representation of volume

Deviations:

- minor alterations made during the painting process to clearly define forms

INTERPRETATION

Attribution:

- Lucas Cranach the Elder

Comments:

- possibly after a preparatory drawing

[Smith, Sandner, Heydenreich, cda 2012]

  • photographed by Gunnar Heydenreich
  • photographed by Ingo Sandner

1990Technical examination / Scientific analysis

  • Infrared reflectography

Underdrawing

Thin underdrawing of the contours and the features [Gronau 1972 , 74, under No. 5]: metalpoint

Executed with a brush but similar to a pen drawing [Schade 1977, 11]

Pentimenti in the group of women with children top left and bottom right

[Hoffmann, Cat. Weimar 1992, 37]

  • photographed by Bernd Konrad

1988Technical Examination

Support

- two planks vertically aligned

[Hoffmann, Cat. Weimar 1992, 37]

Condition Reports

Date1990

  • oak wood cradle

  • numerous retouchings, particularly along the join

  • overcleaned, particularly at the bottom left (during the removal of overpaint?) see: [Flechsig 1900 A]

[Hoffmann, Cat. Weimar 1992, 37]

Conservation History

Date1971

No information

[Hoffmann, Cat. Weimar 1992, 37]

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